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Can Putin Be Deposed? New Clues In War Crimes Trials, As Ukraine War Grinds On ctm magazine



A Russian soldier accused of shooting a defenseless Ukrainian civilian has been convicted of a war crime after pleading guilty. As the International Criminal Court investigates alleged Russian war crimes in Ukraine, President Biden has slammed Putin as a “war criminal” and his administration says it supports helping the ICC’s process by gathering evidence. Despite this, the Biden administration remains against fully joining the ICC. In this special report, MSNBC’s Ari Melber looks back on significant moments throughout history for lessons for trying war crimes in the present day. Melber also explains why the Biden administration wants to limit the Court, noting “if the rest of the world decides it wants to do more to stop Putin or hold him accountable… it will require even more sacrifice.”
https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari/watch/can-putin-be-deposed-new-clues-in-war-crimes-trials-as-ukraine-war-grinds-on-140480581913

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42 Comments

  • TheBestWayOne on May 20, 2022

    What a mess the last year has been

  • Prime79 Prime79 on May 20, 2022

    Y'all can't even get trump tax returns stop it

  • MrWideballs on May 20, 2022

    Is it better to have many authoritarian leaders instead of just having one?

  • Tim D on May 20, 2022

    Iraq was in violation of their agreement.

  • “The world is in more peril from those who tolerate evil or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it.” -Dr. Albert Einstein, March 30 1953

  • ha man on May 20, 2022

    hey hey becarfull from iraq i support russia god with russia bleive me

  • Brad Slowgrove on May 20, 2022

    While I disagree with these reasons for the U.S.A not joining the ICC I think there is a better valid reason why it should not be a member. Not just courts but states in their own right are legal creators of and actors in international law and the U.S is legally just as powerful as the ICC and more so factually. ICC judges also are not protected from the Nuremberg principle against criminal prosecution and every state has jurisdiction to try for universal crimes that is why they are called " universal" . If an ICC judge violated laws of war/ Geneva procedures in trying say an American soldier for ICC universal crimes the U.S.A can legally arrest the judge and try that judge for a bureaucratic war crime as an example. The U.S.A has the power to pull this off but I doubt any of the other ICC members do.The laws of war are a " see-saw" not a " pyramid". The absence of a defence of official capacity to all Nuremberg based universal crimes not only applies to sovereign state municipal law officials but also to officials of international bodies including international criminal tribunals. U.S.A's legal and political power on the international plane would imbalance the power of the ICC as a Court if America was a member unless China, India and (now only perhaps) Russia were parties as well.

  • Dennis Fitzgerald on May 20, 2022

    How about sending Seal Team 6 Covertly inside the Kremlin Compound for a snatch and grab?

  • Hannah Quinn on May 20, 2022

    Not good enough America.

  • c s on May 20, 2022

    can the US be deposed? world would be such a nice place

  • N Alder on May 20, 2022

    There are varying degrees to how a military conducts their governments acts of aggression. Comparing this to Iraq is really splitting hairs for clicks and its disgusting. So if it came down to it all in the contest of who's racing Pontius Pilate to clean their hands faster, it's invisible WMDs VS invisible Nazis. It's point the finger and run away politics that really takes away from what's going on right now. The invasion in Ukraine is about redrawing European borders in this century.

  • Allan Hugo on May 20, 2022

    Pukin should be taken out. That would be justice. He's a blood thirsty war criminal.

  • 24- Card on May 20, 2022

    Because GW Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL… stand up and BE A MAN, little boy!

  • Sara Fox on May 20, 2022

    What a completely delusional headline.

  • 24- Card on May 20, 2022

    Guilty Я GUILTY!!! That’s IT!

  • Brad Slowgrove on May 20, 2022

    P.S. Important . If the US was a member of the ICC the ICC still would not have jurisdiction to try U.S soldiers or officials for its universal crimes because the U.S prosecutes its own offenders. ICC jurisdiction is limited to where a state cannot or will not prosecute its own officials, soldiers or anyone else having influence to prevent local prosecution and the ICC Prosecutor bears the onus of proof in establishing these strict jurisdictional prerequisites. This is the complementarity principle which is fundamental to ICC jurisdiction so it does not really have the dramatic consequence that U.S officials fear. I think the rare case I have mentioned below is a better a reason for the US not becoming an ICC member.

  • Mark Chase on May 20, 2022

    You going to put the GW and HW Bush on trial? He'll No!

  • K F on May 20, 2022

    Humanity is slowly coming to terms with the wrongs that are perpetrated by criminal elements in governments. And rightly so Putin will have to face the same fate. The US will have to resolve these issues as well, once again the people need to raise to a higher standard and demand full accountability from there government.

  • K F on May 20, 2022

    Very well presented and much to think about.

  • Paul Crescenti on May 20, 2022

    Point 1: When you often act as the world’s policeman since the UN won’t, you open yourself up to repeatedly handing over your soldiers for alleged violations.

    Point 2: With the ICC having jurisdiction, military actions taken by the United States at the lowest levels now require extensive gathering of evidence to ensure that EVERY alleged war crime can be refuted. This will make undertaking police actions against foreign powers too cumbersome to consider.

    Point 3: When a clear aggressor exists, and a clear coalition of democratic nations assert their sanctions against the aggressor, the sanctions are voluntary. With agreement, those same sanctions can continue until you; turn over captives, turn over your dictator, turn over this list of 325 military criminals, set up a plan to pay reparations for the cities you destroyed, voluntarily give up land. Just taking your troops and war toys and retreating within your borders is only a start and should not stop any sanctions. This is why the talk of an “off ramp” for Putin is ridiculous. Putin should not be able to negotiate anything, if the Ukrainian people can stand it, Putin, Lavorov and the rest should be completely ruined. War criminals can be handed directly to the Ukraine. If Russia doesn’t like it they can opt for giving the ICC jurisdiction over Russians involved this “special operation “.

  • Gabe Mendoza on May 20, 2022

    Pass the bill, Russia. The more fighters at home and overseas willing to link with you, the better.

  • JLM on May 20, 2022

    Putin’s own citizens would have over run him if he legally declared his War onUkraine in the first place.
    Dictator Hitler 🤕🤑

  • His Dudeness on May 20, 2022

    Putin is not going to trial no more than Bush and Obama are. We actually have a law that states the President can use the military to break out any American citizen in The Hague

  • TiberiousMining on May 20, 2022

    Destroy all the Nuclear Plants, do not let Russia have the power plants

  • michardav on May 20, 2022

    Not just America, but American allies like Israel and Saudi Arabia. How can America call for International Justice against Russian leaders for occupying its neighour, killing those who try to oppose that occupation, when America defends, and even covertly assists, Israel for doing the same thing.

  • Kim Smith on May 20, 2022

    How about Biden and other US presidents and US government who commuted more war crimes in proxy wars and real wars in all these countries ? Who will prosecute them?

  • Om MacC on May 20, 2022

    Seems like the lady KARMA will get the bad little jockey, along with the people. He probably will go like Ghadafi. Not a pretty picture. But he is not man enough to drink the poison or shoot himself. But let's not forget Mr Cancer and Mr Parkinson.

  • rude drego dutorpe on May 20, 2022

    No one is above the law. Putin must be put on trial for his terroristic and genocidal act of war in Ukraine. The whole world should unite and stop Putin's act of evil.

  • Nic Moreno on May 20, 2022

    And yet another who waits till the last minute to say anything…

  • Duson Ng.7 on May 20, 2022

    Nga -putin là kẻ " khổng lồ" đầu đất! Putin level 2!

  • Sanya Suk. on May 20, 2022

    He thinks no one can touch him. He is true.

  • Sanya Suk. on May 20, 2022

    Who can touch Putin ?

  • Ethan Richardson on May 20, 2022

    Putin would be unarmed in the hereafter, he's defeated and he has zero chance to escape the trial of the hereafter. the place, the FSB has no say
    Putin better start seeking for sincere answers for that glorious day

  • Red River on May 20, 2022

    Putin's army is losing grounds anyway.

  • 70newlife on May 20, 2022

    you know nothing 😂😂
    just sitting in a studio and creating stories 😂😂

  • Hunters Laptop on May 20, 2022

    The status quo had been established. Putin got a little peace of Ukraine and everyone put up a good fight. In 5 more years he'll do it again. It's a slow defeat for Ukraine.

  • George Mier on May 20, 2022

    When USA will be condemned for the crimes committed in IRAK, and in other countries?

  • George Mier on May 20, 2022

    Thank you so much for informing the truth.

  • John Riley on May 20, 2022

    The only way to stop Putin is to flood the Russian people with the truth as told individually by each individual and each country. Flood every media point and add more access points the Russians can connect to. If the Russian people know the truth, they will unite to stop Putin before he creates a nuclear holocaust. Every computer hacker and every government can help with this process. Let's get to it.

  • Zed Tony on May 20, 2022

    So when is it's trump's turn

  • George Mier on May 20, 2022

    excellent consideration .

  • Live Life on May 20, 2022

    You'll never have to worry about draft dodger Trump being a war criminal!😊

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